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  • ras
    07-02 01:07 AM
    This is one of the important threads. It's really time to cleanse the system and imbibe faith in the employer/employee relationship.

    We do see such threads on the forum occasionally where the employee is being cheated/asked to sign a contract/is not being paid on bench/employer is threatening etc etc... There are several instances where members have posted negative comments about consulting companies and how employees are unhappy working for them.

    Is this really true?

    I want to understand the reasons why people are not filing lawsuits against such companies yet? Why are we not reporting them to DOL and USCIS? Especially after filing I485 and expiry of 6 months, people are in a better position to file lawsuits against such employers.

    IV can help only if people are willing to be helped and ready to take action.

    If this system needs to be cleansed, then why aren't we doing it?

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  • smartboy75
    10-23 03:44 PM
    Finally my attorney from the previous company has received the withdrawal notice for my H1B with that company. The attorney also said that this was in response to the withdrawal request that the company has filed with USCIS after I left them.
    Just the same way I had mentioned a couple of days before....

    Thanks for sharing the info.

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  • marlon2006
    08-02 10:57 AM
    I am 50% done with an MBA from a top 18 school. Unless you are planning to start a career in financing or economics, *I seriously* doubt that rankings would make a lot of difference. For people in IT wanting to move to a CTO/CIO position, I cannot see how rankings would make a significant difference. Instead of spending the money and resources to go to a top school, I'd prefer to invest in certifications such as CISSP, management certifications, etc and then take a degree in a less known school would be totally OK. I agree that by going to a reputable school, you may meet people there that can help you get positions in the future. So far I've got an invitation to work for classmate's team, thanks to the connection I've made at the MBA.

    For those of with you without true passion for management and soft skills, you might want to consider a MSIS or MSIM instead. Those degrees usually are less expensive and less time consuming to achieve. I started the MBA planning that I would be a great CIO. After taking many courses at my MBA, I decided that the last thing I want is to be a CIO; CIO's are about people, executive management and I learned that's not where my passion is.

    Can anyone provide some useful insight based on personal experienceas to how valuable is Part Time MBA for oppurtunities in India?

    I am IT professional with lot of experience and currently pursuing Part time MBA from a business school which is ranked in top 25 and not in top 10.

    The way I see it that it will take me around 4 years to complete it and I have to invest atleast $30,000 even if I get employer to pay a part of it.

    In the end if it fetches me a top notch management position it will be well worth it. However I see limited chances of getting into management positions in US just based on MBA degree however I am not sure about India.

    Any thoughts?

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  • paskal
    05-23 02:52 PM
    these actions are not done "casually' or haphazardly"
    we have created these strategies based on advice and feedback from the offices of friendly lawmakers, advice from professinal lobbyists and our own experience so far. the "assistants" you speak too keep running tallies of phone calls on a given issue and these are communicated regularly to legislative directors and lawmakers. digital signatures and even digital petitions are given less weight- handwritten snail mailed letters on the other hand are treated with great importance.

    you may wish to google the nyt articles on how numbers usa operates to derail bills- they call! if our members would show the same enthusiasm and every single person would call when requested, we could have the same impact.


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  • smartboy75
    09-17 02:33 PM
    Thats all he does !

    One more Amendement by Mr King....after the vote

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  • jsb
    10-29 12:43 PM
    So far from the poll results I see that most of us are here by choice ( though we are put thru GC waits). no matter what we will try to stay here until we reach our personal breaking point which would tigger us to look at alternatives.
    Someone here asked what independence and freedom has to do with the Quit America thing. Most of the immigrant community feels that they are not given access to lot of things due to restrictions in their visas and unpredictable GC process. And the inconvenience and trouble their familes go through. With that in prespective I am thinking that we have lost atleast some of our freedom and independence.
    This reason for this poll is to also make people think .

    Of course, once you come to a new place, you lose some freedom, and take time to adjust to the new situation. If you or someone believes that by quiting US, one can achieve independence and freedom, by all means. I don't think America says that you HAVE TO work and live here. It is very simple to achieve such independence and freedom, resign, sell everything and catch a plane.


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  • pappu
    10-27 11:14 AM
    I finally get the chance to share our wonderful news with you all. We (me and my wife) received our "Welcome new resident" e-mails this morning.

    11 yrs for me and 12 yrs for my wife since coming to the USA. Between the two of us, Three J1s and Two F1 stamps, Six H1b stamps, Four 140s, 10 EAD/AP (5 each), 3 finger print notices apiece, Four RFEs between us and a total of $68KUSD in total USCIS fees/Lawyer fees and countless gray hair later and after many an emotional roller coaster over the years, it was our turn today.
    For those of you unclear about the admittedly weird above numbers, take a look at my RD. It is not a typo! I often wondered if I was a lone Dinosaur that survived the meteorite. I never saw anyone with a 4 plus year 485 recently.
    Our 485s were 2 yrs old and approvable when the visa bulletin fiasco happened in summer 2007. Ironically I heard that even my FPs/Background check were cleared by then (which in those days was the main cause of delays).

    I made many approaches over the years to the USCIS via phone, email, and fax, My Congressman contacted them on multiple occasions (atleast 3 times when he forwarded their response to me). I finally also wrote the ombudsman 2 weeks ago. I was pretty scathing in that letter as well (about their mockery of their stated FIFO policy etc). I am not sure exactly what worked, or if anything at all did, and it was just my time. After a while dealing with the injustice, you just get numb. Today finally I breathe a deep sigh of relief. The loooooong wait is over.

    I've spent so long waiting I even get nostalgic about the early days. I remember very well, blogging one cold December night on Immigrationportal with Wallenpond, Pdakwala, Superman,Khodalmd and many other early IV luminaries in 2005 putting up a rearguard uncoordinated effort, when Rep. Sensenbrenner scuttled our visa recapture chances in conference committee. Following which IV was born with leadership from folks well known to us now. IV is your organisation and platform. It will only be as strong as you let it be.

    I wish each of you all the best of luck and least agony in your wait. Those of you current, have faith, if you are being wronged, Stand up. Write/meet with those in a position to do something. Advocate for yourself. That way, atleast they know, what is going on. Otherwise none can help you.

    I will continue to stick around here and do what I can to help with IVs efforts. I believe with our overall effort, we are helping ourselves yes, but what we are advocating for is correct for this country as well.

    Best wishes all.

    Congrats. We remember you from the early days of IV and appreciate your continued support to this effort.

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  • rongha_2000
    11-02 02:56 PM
    What are you smoking dude? You 100 people go back, 1000s more are in line to replace them. Get real..!!

    Let us all have a rally to move back to our countries on 4July2008 to symbolically show that we want our Freedom and Independence and never return back.
    If all the articles about reverse brain drain we are reading about is true they would do something to solve this GC situation. Otherwise the anti-immigrants will come to see us off while we depart this country and never to return back as H1B's trying to get GC's and live here. This will go into history, 30yrs from now and our grandchildren will read about it. And may be we will get some special pension at our home countries for returning back and helping it to do better.

    Please take the poll to indicate if you would participate in this QUIT AMERICA MOVEMENT FOR OUR FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE


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  • rongha_2000
    11-02 04:00 PM
    Why isnt supporting and contributing to IV an option on the table here? People like such are "all talk and no action" types..!!

    World strongest person (US President) support relief for high skilled but failed!
    World richest person (Bill Gates) not only support but desperately want relief for high skilled but failed.
    Now only one option left that is to follow century's strongest person (Mahatma Gandhi) or keep quite.

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  • somegchuh
    07-19 06:13 PM
    Hello All,

    I just wanted to start a new thread to discuss career options for those who have been on H1b for 6+ years.
    1. Being on H1 more than 6 years and waiting for GC means you have been stuck in the same job for several years.
    2. You can't start a masters because you are not sure if you will ever be able to complete it
    3. You have kids who are already growing up.
    4. Your wife has been waiting to start working for years now.

    So feel free to discuss anything related to these issues here. Let's exchange ideas and everyone can make informed decisions for long term :)


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  • gk_2000
    04-22 07:54 PM
    Ok. But how does this apply to immigration?

    On the page you quote, below is what I see -

    The Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice enforces federal laws that prohibit discrimination in:

    Public Accommodations
    Law Enforcement / Police Misconduct

    The "per-country limit" is definitely unfair within the realm of employment-based immigration due to the outdated and irrelevant law which needs reform. However skewing this to make it a civil rights issue is pushing it a bit too much.

    So coming back to Immigration (which is what, I believe, we are discussing), below is what I came across on

    The Supreme Court has ruled that the Congressional power to regulate naturalization, from Article 1, Section 8, includes the power to regulate immigration (see, for example, Hampton v. Mow Sun Wong, 426 U.S. 88 [1976]

    In other words, the Constitution does not specifically mention immigration but based on the above, delegates power to the Congress to pass laws to regulate immigration. This Article of the Constitution also clarifies the part about rules for immigrants and quotas being set at the Federal level and not State level.

    The above is a fact, not my opinion. Therefore, No - I do not agree that your reasoning has any direct parallel to our case since the correct approach and reasoning involves challenging a Supreme Court Ruling on Article 1 of the Constitution, which you would agree is next to impossible.

    There are far too many points here to address at one go. Let me touch upon this for starters:

    The Article 1, Section 8 has this clause, regarding the power of congress:

    Clause 4: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization

    Are we disputing the fact that congress has the power to establish a uniform rule of naturalization?
    No. We are not. We are just saying, that the current Rule of Naturalization is in violation of the discrimination clause in the constitution, and ought to be disregarded. We are not asking to strip congress of this power, so this argument you make is not relevant. Agreed?

    More later ..

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  • viva
    11-15 03:23 PM
    I do not mean to be negative, but this immigration debacle does not seem to end. How long do we have to freaking endure this nightmare? IV has been trying for months now...When do you think we will have immigration relief? Are we just going to end up being like thirsty deers in a desert chasing a mirage in search for water?

    Are there any astrologers in the forum? Does any astrologer see the retrogression ending soon?


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  • p1234
    10-02 02:42 PM
    Bcoz Mr. gctest is Mr. phd, he treats Eb3 with contempt! Now, he will go back and delete all his dirty posts :)

    EB3 can accomplish anything that EB2 can, based on their work experience, but some people don't understand that.

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  • pansworld
    12-13 12:59 AM
    351. That is the total count of contributors.
    1. We will have 500 contributors for this funding drive.
    2. Taking a percentage of the people voting yes we get 500*42/60=350 (this changes as the voting continues)

    Cash flow with paid membership
    $8750 per month or a $105,000 per year.

    Probability of getting newer members is less. Contributions to funding drive may decline altogether if we do not allow people who visit the site to ask questions.

    To generate the same cash flow with monthly funding drives
    assuming an average of $50 per month=175 people.

    Probability of getting more people to contribute per month is higher. Getting more commitments is higher. Getting commitment from different set of people is higher and many may chose to make one time payments.

    I may be wrong but I am open to other calcs as well.


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  • va_12_2004
    04-21 10:49 PM
    I have just contributed $100. More later. Please keep up the good effort. I am trying to talk with guys in our company to join and contribute.

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  • leoindiano
    10-29 11:28 AM

    i sent you a PM for letter.


    my case is similar to yours. RD august 3rd 2007. PD Nov 19th 2004.

    I recently found that my case is pending review again. It was assigned to IO on sept 17th, got a FP notice, then it went back to storage again.

    I called last week and opened SR. today called POJ twice and asked them to send a request to assign to IO, both times IO said, will do it. Not sure, if they are really doing it. Because, they dont give you any tracking number. I will keep calling them.


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  • vsrinir
    09-17 12:28 PM
    we need to watch.

    May be next or next one

    You need to have " SABURI" !!!!!

    When is our Bill coming for vote

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  • leoindiano
    09-17 01:14 PM
    Why don't IV lobbysts take them to nicest Indian cuisine in DC? ;)

    Coz IV lobbyists dont have money. Total contributions in last 3 months are less than 5k.

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  • smuggymba
    03-29 04:01 PM

    I mostly get reds for being honest and stating the facts but that doesnt matter. I have to agree with Nathan, dont get emotional, lets see how to get out of this mess. As you stated, your employer didnt invite you, the only thing he should have done that he didnt do was recalled your petition when it became effective. He will get away with a warning and a small fine unless he has done the same as a pattern.

    You can get him in real trouble, (of course but only by doing damage to yourself) by proving you paid the money for the H-1 and I sure here too, you would have given him a check and he would have given a company check to USCIS and you are going to make life more difficult for you than for him as proving you paid the money for the petitionis going to be very difficult.

    This is the time to sit back and think what is your real goal. I guess, it was to come here and work hard and succeed not make life miserable for everyone involved. Trust me Honey attracts more flies than vinegar. Speak to your employers softly and try to find a solution. If you need help finding a job, I am sure there are plenty of avenues, especially with the market improving.

    Now dont jump into conclusions, that I am another consultant or work for a consultant. I am neither.


    These crooks are intelligent - they take money in Indian rupees and deposit it in their account named after his/her mother. Difficult to prove you paid for H1-B unless you have a recipt/transfer record here in the USA.

    02-07 01:56 PM
    It is just speculation that it will take 10 years or 15 years. Actually past 3 years atleast 50% h1 were used by TCS,WIPRO and similar companies. So those who are processing gc is less. But it may take some time to clear current backlog as we had 195k H1 cap till 2003. If 65k h1 cap is there then it will be 3 year waiting period for EB2 and 4 to 5 year for Eb3. People will speculate based on number of H1s. But their calculation is not including the number of people who are giving up and also many people are going back. But if they increase H1 then the situation may become worse. I think one time releif will be enough to resolve the issue for
    next 5 years. But Skil bill is asking too much(May be for permanent resolution of
    gc issue) and opposition is more as anti immigrants are quoting the numbers. Remember in 2000 the relief of recapturing previous few years did not attract
    large opposition and passed easily. Simlarly if H1 increase also limited for 2 or 3 years that can be passed easily as we can convince Senators like Sessions.
    But if we keep on asking so many numbers of H1 and Gc and also exemptions
    for Master degree then we have to wait for CIR as this will have lesser impact
    in numbers compared to illegal immigrants.

    I wonder why EB 3 ROW is stuck at Aug 02. I guess it should move faster.

    06-12 09:17 AM
    yeah, i basically inverted the screen and I though some kind of overall layout can be done. eg the scan lines in this situation. :)

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